Unbeatable seed?

[MDBat]

I think I got an unbeatable seed. I attached the Spoiler Log so you can see for yourself.

Dancing Grandma 1 is in Magridd Castle Right Tower, so I need the VIP Card to access it. But the VIP Card is at the Super Bracelet tile under Queen Magridd, and the Queen only disappear from there if you do the Leo Cutscene. Which I can't do, since I can't enter the Right Tower.

Am I missing something?

SpoilerLog.txt

[Mindez]

Had a look at the code and this does appear to be possible - have raised a PR to put in a fix!

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I realise it was a while ago, but do you still have the seed?

[MDBat]

Yes, the seed is 1584987679. Do you need more information?

I also happen to have another seemingly unbeatable seed I discovered around the same time as this one. But I don't recall all the details unfortunately... here's the seed: 1585596449.

From the notes I have, the Zantetsu Sword was behind invisible enemies in Model Town 2, with no Soul of Detection available, and metal enemies in Leo's Basement that blocked progress. But I may be wrong about this.

[Mindez]

Thanks! I'm glad you kept it, trying to reverse engineer one was a bit of a pain 😄

On your second seed:

As far as I can tell there's no logic that prevents Model Town 2 from being in logic before the Soul of Detection - I'm not sure if this was an oversight or if it's as-intended - I think one of the original devs will need to confirm that one! In fact, the only Soul that I can see that has any effect on logic is the Soul of Light to access Turbo's grave, but that's just to open up the tunnel. I will have a look at that seed to see if anything else about it might be unbeatable though.

Logic goal chain for Model Town 2:
3 (Village Chief, Old Woman) -> 10 (Greenwoods Guardian) -> 13 (Mermaid Queen) -> 25 (Girl3, Grandpa4, Mushroom2, Grandpa5, Nome, Mountain King) -> 65 (Steps Upstairs, Great Door Model Town) -> 29 (Model Town 2)

[MDBat]

No problem! Hope you can fix it easily :)

As for the second seed, I think I remember what confused me: the tracker by Wolfman2000 in EmoTracker. If I follow the logic chain you provided, the little square for Model Town 2 on the tracker is yellow (meaning it's a sequence break) but when I mark Soul of Detection as obtained, it turns green. So I must have thought it was a prerequisite. Thanks for the clarification.

Are there plans to update the randomizer? Because talking about it makes me want to replay it. Really loved it when I played back then.